tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6388215128281488281.post2578188111827716346..comments2023-08-27T05:17:55.061-06:00Comments on like the rest: Why AA might be more effective than church...Alyssahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00629821704101050536noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6388215128281488281.post-25791538611220754572012-07-07T09:32:28.842-06:002012-07-07T09:32:28.842-06:00Leilani,
I'm so glad to hear this. My dad s...Leilani,<br /> I'm so glad to hear this. My dad suffered with alcoholism for the better part of his life. I think the idea here is that all of us find Jesus in different, extraordinary ways, some people just find a distorted idea of Jesus. My husband knew God for a long time, but didn't know Jesus-the man who came to free and save us. I meet more and more people who come from broken, addicted, abused lives, and know Jesus more than many church-goers. We've got to find Jesus, no matter how, we just have to really know Him.<br /><br />You're very welcome, thanks for sharing your story.Alyssahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00629821704101050536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6388215128281488281.post-55141900564941189502012-07-06T17:09:59.919-06:002012-07-06T17:09:59.919-06:00My boyfriend loves Jesus like no one else I know. ...My boyfriend loves Jesus like no one else I know. This man gets it- he loves people and he loves Jesus. He is also 2 years sober, thanks to the people and program he worked in AA. There are definitely aspects of AA that aren't perfect, but there are also many aspects of the church that are flawed. <br /><br />thanks for writing this.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04255555844521215218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6388215128281488281.post-86037169166448956862012-04-24T20:26:11.927-06:002012-04-24T20:26:11.927-06:00Thanks, Momma. :) I'm happy to know we've ...Thanks, Momma. :) I'm happy to know we've both seen those changes, and I'm especially glad to see the relationship I have with my dad now. Love youAlyssahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00629821704101050536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6388215128281488281.post-41775129778490668982012-04-24T13:13:09.947-06:002012-04-24T13:13:09.947-06:00I agree with both sides of this argument. When Le...I agree with both sides of this argument. When Lee first started in AA and the kids were little, I about had a coronary regarding some of the things he told me about what he could and could not do within AA. Whether he was being truthful with me or was just making excuses for what he did or did not want to do, i don't know. Now looking at Lee and a few others I have known, AA serves a very valuable place with people who chose to use it for good, not bad. The chances I have seen in Lee because of AA and God are amazing, and I would know best about this, so I have to say good things about AA because of him. I don't say they are right for everyone and about everything, but the organization has done something right for many, many people. I love what you wrote here...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6388215128281488281.post-69817853360457708102012-04-24T12:00:19.808-06:002012-04-24T12:00:19.808-06:00I have much to say about this, but I am such a slo...I have much to say about this, but I am such a slow typist that it is best said in person. Let's take time to discuss it this weekend. :)<br />BillBill Ferrerohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00167689221425144189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6388215128281488281.post-33020626730712262632012-04-24T11:02:34.112-06:002012-04-24T11:02:34.112-06:00Well, I absolutely know there is truth that both o...Well, I absolutely know there is truth that both organizations are flawed, because all people are flawed. My dad came to know Jesus because of and through AA, while my brother doesn't want to know Jesus because of the church. I'm sure you can understand my heartache behind this post. And only those of us who know Jesus--truly know Him--can say that we have the right message because we know His love and His truth. But I'm finding that telling people who don't know him that they are wrong is causing both sides to stumble. If we love people first and forget about the right and wrong, God will take care of the rest. We love and guide the hearts of people, and He does the work on those hearts. He never commanded us to crack the whip and condemn, just to love.<br /><br />Thanks for your thoughts, it's been a while.Alyssahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00629821704101050536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6388215128281488281.post-55247822331348989362012-04-24T10:49:59.064-06:002012-04-24T10:49:59.064-06:00Dear Daughter-in-Law,
You are comparing apples and...Dear Daughter-in-Law,<br />You are comparing apples and oranges.If you count "effecive" as being tolerant of sin, then yes, you have a point and AA wins. If "effective means" a life change and eternal salvation, the the Church wins.<br />I just had this discussion on Sunday with a man who ended up in the ER after DUI. He was rejected by AA once he mentioned Jesus. <br /><br />I find that appearance and ideals are rejected by people of all stripes at times, but when the grungies reject the well-groomed, it doesn't garner near the attention as when it goes the other way.<br /><br />I have much experince with the AA crowd and find their philosophy inherently flawed, so I never say anything good about them. Christians may not always be doing everything right, but we are the only ones with the right message.<br />Keep thinking and writing! Love, BillUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14074104634109171327noreply@blogger.com